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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #1073
- To: Info-Hams
-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Thu, 29 Sep 94 Volume 94 : Issue 1073
-
- Today's Topics:
- [LOOKING] for ftp site w/ham-exams
- Best HT anywhere at any price!
- Callbook online?
- Colorado Repeater Assn.
- FCC forms wireless division
- For Sale: PK-232-MBX TNC
- IPS Daily Report - 27 September 94
- Need help with FT-530: half-duplex crossband operation
- Shops in NYC and Boston?
- Subsciption
- Tucker Electronics
- UK repeaters frequencies needed ...
- Vertically Polarized Noise
- VTVMs? Anybody use these anymore?
- Why does Radio Shac care if I export HT202? ##
-
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- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Sep 1994 02:15:47 GMT
- From: intac!usenet@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: [LOOKING] for ftp site w/ham-exams
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CwsnJM.54s@oakhill.sps.mot.com>, tjohnson@austlcm.sps.mot.com ('terence johnson/zpe4') says:
- >
- >
- >Does anyone know of a good ftp site which has recent example-tests or
- >a program that generates them from a question pool. My nieghbor wants
- >a PC program which can generate random tests.
- >
- You might try to ftp: nic.funet.fi /pub/ham/exams
- view the index for latest versions of
- Novice, Tech, General, Advanced and Extra class
- license exam question pools.
-
- Software will drill questions and generate complete exams for practice.
-
- - 73 and good luck -
- Thom / N2CBV
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 30 Sep 94 00:19:00 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Best HT anywhere at any price!
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- As far as I am concerned, when I am looking for HTs I am looking for:
- - Price
- - Quality
- - Features
-
- The best match is the AT-18, sold by Electro Automatic Corp, of Lawrence MA
- 01840, 508/687-6411, fax:508/687-6493.
-
- Its looks like a Standard (same commands as well, no bells and whistles -
- probably built by the same factrory) sold by another name (in Europe its
- called ADI-18). Quality and performance is there except that the price is
- $159, not $459. They even have a AT-48 for the 70cm band for $179.
-
- No I have nothing to do with this company, but I always support products at
- realistic prices.
-
- Beats any kit or any HT at any price.
-
- Peter Vekinis, KC1QF
- pve@dg13.cec.be
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Sep 1994 00:14:34 GMT
- From: spool.mu.edu!news.nd.edu!mac35@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Callbook online?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <tjaCwrHA6.31M@netcom.com>, tja@netcom.com (T.J. Alessi) wrote:
- >
- > I presently use the callbook server at "callbook.cs.buffalo.edu" and it
- > is OK, but does anyone know of others (more up to date that I can telnet
- > into?
- >
- The Buffalo callsign server is updated periodically. It has simply been a
- while since an update (January). Since then, there has been new info
- available on CD ROM, so it is probably just a matter of time until the
- callsign server is brought up to date. I myself have several QSLs which I
- am holding until there is an update.
-
- Does anyone know when an update is likely to occur? Perhaps after the
- release of the October update from Buckmaster?
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Sep 1994 17:54:36 GMT
- From: yuma!galen@purdue.edu
- Subject: Colorado Repeater Assn.
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <CwsL9s.3pw@csn.org> jwdxt@csn.org (Jim Deeming) writes:
- >Does anyone have a phone number I could call to get my CRA membership
- >underway? I have the mailing address from the Repeater Directory, but it
- >does not contain any membership information and I'd like to talk to a real
- >person so I can send everything I need the first time.
-
- I joined at the swapfest on Sunday. I can't find a Ph #, but they say
- to get on the 147.225+ repeater if you have questions.
-
- A family membership is $20/yr, a student memebership is $10/yr. They
- asked if I was interested in joining the tech committee or the work crew
- when I joined.
-
- Colorado Repeater Association
- PO Box 621
- Parker, CO 80134
-
- Galen, KF0YJ
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Sep 1994 17:58:48 -0600
- From: mnemosyne.cs.du.edu!nyx.cs.du.edu!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: FCC forms wireless division
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <1CA69AD1765@thor.cca.rockwell.com>,
- William E. Newkirk <wen%pubs%genav.mlb@ns14.cca.cr.rockwell.com> wrote:
- >(i dunno, i find it funny that people use the term "Wireless" and
- >think it's something new and different than "Radio")
- >
- >"If It's *Wireless*, It's *Radio*"
- >
-
- uhhh, not to seem inflamatory or anything but, wireless = without wires,
- and radio = is using a certain portions of the EM spectrum. Hence people
- do not normally consider Infra-red communacation or any such, 'radio'.
-
- --
- jsteinhu@nyx.cs.du.edu
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Sep 1994 06:52:47 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!nic-nac.CSU.net!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!olivea!gossip.pyramid.com!news.c2.org!randyk@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: For Sale: PK-232-MBX TNC
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I have a Pk-232-MBX in 'very' good condition. It has 01 AUG. 91
- firmware chips installed { 18k plus in the MBX } and comes with the $75.
- We-Fax cable and manual. I also have the original carton for this critter
- as well.
-
- I am thinking that $200. would be ok for this unit { shipping via
- U.P.S. etc. won't be that much extra from Berkeley }.
-
- Just drop me a reply here if you have any questions that I can help
- you with re: the unit.
-
- Sincerly;
-
- Randy Kielich N6WDV randyk@c2.org
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Tue, 27 Sep 1994 23:36:22 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!sgiblab!munnari.oz.au!yarrina.connect.com.au!news.uwa.edu.au!harbinger.cc.monash.edu.au!news.cs.su.oz.au!metro!ipso!rwc@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: IPS Daily Report - 27 September 94
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT
- ISSUED AT 27/2330Z SEPTEMBER 1994 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
- FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
- SUMMARY FOR 27 SEPTEMBER AND FORECAST FOR 28 SEPTEMBER - 30 SEPTEMBER
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
- Activity: very low
-
- Flares: none.
-
- Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 75/13
-
- GOES satellite data for 26 Sep
- Daily Proton Fluence >1 MeV: 1.0E+06
- Daily Proton Fluence >10 MeV: 1.4E+04
- Daily Electron Fluence >2 MeV: 3.1E+07 (normal)
- X-ray background: A3.4
- Fluence (flux accumulation over 24hrs)/ cm2-ster-day.
-
- 1B. SOLAR FORECAST
- 28 Sep 29 Sep 30 Sep
- Activity Very low Very low Very low
- Fadeouts None expected None expected None expected
-
- Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number for 28 Sep: 75/13
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
- Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: quiet to unsettled
-
- Estimated Indices : A K Observed A Index 26 Sep
- Learmonth 9 2223 2322
- Fredericksburg 13 16
- Planetary 18 20
-
- Observed Kp for 26 Sep: 3445 3222
- 2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
- DATE Ap CONDITIONS
- 28 Sep 15 Quiet to unsettled
- 29 Sep 12 Quiet to unsettled
- 30 Sep 10 Quiet to unsettled
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
- LATITUDE BAND
- DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH
- 27 Sep normal fair-normal fair-normal
- PCA Event : None.
-
- 3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
- LATITUDE BAND
- DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH
- 28 Sep normal normal fair-normal
- 29 Sep normal normal normal
- 30 Sep normal normal normal
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
- Observed
- DATE T-index MUFs at Sydney
- 27 Sep 12 near predicted monthly values
-
- Predicted Monthly T-index for September: 20
-
- 4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
- DATE T-index MUFs
- 28 Sep 15 Near predicted monthly values
- 29 Sep 20 Near predicted monthly values
- 30 Sep 20 Near predicted monthly values
- COMMENT: The MUFs were slightly depressed in the early UT day.
- --
- IPS Regional Warning Centre, Sydney |IPS Radio and Space Services
- RWC Duty Forecaster tel: +61 2 4148329 |PO Box 5606
- Recorded Message tel: +61 2 4148330 |West Chatswood NSW 2057
- email: rwc@ips.oz.au fax: +61 2 4148331 |AUSTRALIA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Sep 1994 18:27:54 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!swiss.ans.net!solaris.cc.vt.edu!news.duke.edu!duke.edu!jbs@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Need help with FT-530: half-duplex crossband operation
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- This weekend we were experimenting with crossband repeating and ran into some
- difficulty with feedback when trying to use the HT transmitting on one band
- and receiving on the other. With my DJ-580 you set FL (freq lock) and then
- toggle full-duplex on/off for the active band by pushing the "Power" button.
- Works great - with FD off no feedback when you transmit. My friend has an
- FT-530 and nothing in the manual gives any clue about turning off full-duplex
- operation.
-
- Anybody out there know how to switch it off on a 530?
-
- Thanks in advance...
-
- -joe
- --
- "When personal freedom's being abused, | "I have an open mind, about everything
- you have to move to limit it." | it needs to be open about."
- |
- - U.S. President Bill Clinton, 1994 | - George Greene 9/13/94
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Sep 1994 15:38:57 +0200
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!ucsnews!sol.ctr.columbia.edu!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sunic!news.funet.fi!sauna.cs.hut.fi!elvis.clinet.fi!clinet.fi!jukka@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Shops in NYC and Boston?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- I'm going to visit NYC and Boston at mid-October. I have been in NYC
- before, but found only "Barry's Electronics" at 512 Broadway. Is it the
- only one there? If so, i don't need to visit there this time...
-
- I haven't been in Boston before this, so it would be nice to know, if
- there's toys for boys available there. Or is there some kind of
- "Electronics Street", as in some big cities?
-
- 73!
- --
- Jukka Salomaa jukka@clinet.fi OH2BUA
- phone +358 400 315 444 puhelin 9400 315 444
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 29 Sep 94 19:20:15 GMT
- From: news-mail-gateway@ucsd.edu
- Subject: Subsciption
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Suscribe.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 02:31:38 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!usc!howland.reston.ans.net!news.sprintlink.net!redstone.interpath.net!ddsw1!news.kei.com!yeshua.marcam.com!charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu!csusac!csus.edu!netcom.com!edlawson@network
- Subject: Tucker Electronics
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- The bottom line is Tucker is a very reputable dealer who has been around
- for years and knows (remembers) what customer service is. Their prices
- will never be the lowest, but this is not a garage operation and they
- will be around. If you want som'tin for nut'in as the CW posting went,
- don't bother with Tucker.
-
- I will admit that their used commercial equipment pricing is out of touch
- with reality..(goes back to when there was a military budget and
- when an ambitious sub would pay the price.......they're a little
- sleepy on this part)
-
- ......jes depends on how bad you want it......
-
-
- edlawson@netcom.com
- KD5EZ, Austin
-
- *******************************************************************************
- Please help Bill
- out.......vote
- Republican in
- November.
- *******************************************************************************
-
-
- --
- edlawson@netcom.com
- KD5EZ, Austin
-
- *******************************************************************************
- Please help Bill
- out.......vote
- Republican in
- November.
- *******************************************************************************
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Sep 1994 15:16:01 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!dog.ee.lbl.gov!agate!howland.reston.ans.net!math.ohio-state.edu!jussieu.fr!cea.fr!usenet@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: UK repeaters frequencies needed ...
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- 73 to everyone,
-
- I'm searching repeaters freq. in VHF and UHF for UK and especially
- for KENT and SUSSEX.
-
- If someone can post that ...
-
- TNX
-
- Note : If you have the same thing for Italy ...
-
- Jean-Christophe MONIER
- Ingenieur Reseaux / Networks Engineer
- Athesa - C.E.A. Defense - France
- E-Mail : jcmonier@muguet.saclay.cea.fr
- Phone : (33/1) 69.08.56.41
-
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Sep 1994 14:12:07 -0400
- From: newstf01.cr1.aol.com!newsbf01.news.aol.com!not-for-mail@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: Vertically Polarized Noise
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <369hac$qko@westnet.westnet.com>, lgreco@westnet.westnet.com
- (Luigi Greco) writes:
-
- >Why is most man-made noise vertically polarized?
-
- (quick-and-dirty explaination follows):
- It's mostly a function of how the noise is actually measured. That is,
- most man-made noise measurements of interest take place very near ground
- level (in a building, car, etc.). Since you're low to the ground, and the
- earth is a fairly good conductor at low frequencies (HF), the horizontal
- component of the noise electric field gets cancelled out due to the
- boundary condition imposed by the earth (same physics as vertical electric
- fields reflect without phase reversal, but horizontal ones phase shift 180
- degrees). So in the process of observing these noise fields, only the
- vertically polarized ones exist at the measurement points.
- If you went up in the sky and measured the same quantity, you'd find both
- polarizations.
- scott nx7u
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 28 Sep 1994 22:06:21 GMT
- From: news.tek.com!tekgp4.cse.tek.com!royle@uunet.uu.net
- Subject: VTVMs? Anybody use these anymore?
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- Tom Randolph (randolph@est.enet.dec.com):
-
- : I picked up a neat old VTVM ("Knight" by Allied Radio) for $3 at a flea
- : this. . .
-
- : Anybody still use these things? Any thoughts on a probe for it? How about
- : calibrating it? I'm gonna measure a few 1% resistors to get that scale set, but
- : I dunno about the voltage scales - maybe one of those 1.2V reference chips?
-
- Sure. Anybody with discriminating eyes can see that the VTVMs give very
- noticeably smoother readings, unlike the harsh, crystalline readings of
- the solid-state meters. I don't care what tests you run, the readings
- just look better. I understand that the Japanese are particularly fond
- of VTVMs, so there must be something to it.
-
- It's also been found that you get better readings if the probe cable's
- impedance matches the input impedance of the VTVM. (Boy, is the center
- conductor small!) Gold plated connectors help, too. Some authorities have
- reported that a green magic marker applied to the meter rim noticeably
- enhances readings, but I haven't tried this myself.
-
- Better get yours before they're all snatched up by the metrophiles!
-
- Sorry, sometimes I just can't resist. . . ;-]
-
- Roy Lewallen, W7EL
- roy.lewallen@tek.com
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 27 Sep 1994 18:20:01 GMT
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!wupost!bigfoot.wustl.edu!motel6.cec.wustl.edu!jlw3@network.ucsd.edu
- Subject: Why does Radio Shac care if I export HT202? ##
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- In article <barry.490.000AF159@indirect.com>,
- Barry Rose <barry@indirect.com> wrote:
- >In article <lestrade.780506240@Ra.MsState.Edu> lestrade@Ra.MsState.Edu (John Patrick Lestrade) writes:
-
- >>I am brand new to ham radio and yesterday in a RS when I asked aboout
- >>their sale on the HT202, the salesman asked me if I intended to take it
- >>out of the country. (I happened to be with a french friend whose accent
- >>was obvious.) I am not going, unfortunately, out of the country!
- >>can anyone enlighten me as to why this is `illegal'?
- >
- >I am not sure it is illegal but I have heard that the repeaters in Europe use
- >a different scheme than we do here. Here we use one pl tone to access a
- >repeater, (sub-audible tone that you must have installed in your radio to
- >brind up the repeater). This means that a rig made for the US will have to
- >have their type of tone encoder installed or you will not have access to their
-
- You are right about this. I have not traveled to europe, but you might notice
- a few things. In Europe, they, indeed, do not usually use pl tones for
- squelch. I believe, instead, they use an audible 1650 Hz (?) tone at the
- beginning of each transmission to key the repeater. You may also notice, if
- you check the product information guides from Icom, Yaesu, Alinco, etc.
- (those companies who sell both here and overseas) that there is usually both
- a US and European version of each model, plus maybe asian, etc. Remember
- that other countries have other band plans; some european countries have
- not 144-148 as the 2m band but other frequencies.
-
- What's really surprising is that the RS person would know about anything
- like this. It's quite out of their character to be educated ;)
-
- Anyway, this is what I understand
-
- --jesse
- AB5XC
- (btw, my call only took 8 weeks to process, unlike my tech+ call, which
- took 32 weeks!)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Wed, 28 Sep 1994 19:27:59 GMT
- From: wang!dbushong@uunet.uu.net
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <Cwq6yt.C41@indep1.chi.il.us>, <367agl$c8a@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>, <CwtBL9.JFF@indep1.chi.il.us>
- Subject : Re: Answer to "How far can I talk?"
-
- clifto@indep1.chi.il.us (Clifton T. Sharp) writes:
-
- > Uh, Todd, wanna try that again? (Clues below. :-)
-
- >In article <Cwq6yt.C41@indep1.chi.il.us>, clifto@indep1.chi.il.us (Clifton T. Sharp) writes:
-
- >The formula is sqrt(2 * h).
-
- >In article <367agl$c8a@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> little@iamu.chi.dec.com (Todd Little) writes:
-
- >The formula is sqrt(2) * sqrt(h). This is 50% greater.
-
- Uh, Cliff, wanna try that again? (Clues below. :-)
-
- True, it is 50% greater than something, I suppose, but not of the
- correct answer. It is 0% greater than the correct answer. Let's
- look into this further, using real numbers for "h".
-
- Let "h" = 1,000,000 feet
-
- Formula 1)
-
- D = sqrt(2*h)
- = sqrt(2000000)
- = 1414.213...
-
- Formula 2)
-
- D = sqrt(2) * sqrt(h)
- = 1.414213... * 1000
- = 1414.213...
-
- So that a million-foot-high antenna will talk about 1400 miles.
-
- Can I get one of them from Texas Towers?
-
-
-
- Dave, KZ1O
- --
- Dave Bushong
- OPEN/image Recognition Products
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 09:14:39 +0000
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sun4nl!hacktic!cpzap!zap@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <CwJFEy.FDK@hpqmoea.sqf.hp.com>, <roy-220994141047@mchip8.med.nyu.edu>, <cgwh.111.000B0400@chevron.com>
- Subject : Re: Why is aviation COM VHF *amplitude* modulated?
-
- In article <cgwh.111.000B0400@chevron.com>
- cgwh@chevron.com (Curtis Wheeler) writes:
-
- > In article <roy-220994141047@mchip8.med.nyu.edu> roy@nyu.edu (Roy Smith) writes:
- >
- > >dstock@hpqmdla.sqf.hp.com (David Stockton) wrote:
- > >> In this way the whole world (except
- > >> the odd reclusive country) would have to change over at once.
- >
- > >Why? You pick some unused band and simulcast AM on 118-136 MHz and FM on
- > >the other one using channel-pairing. That way, planes equipped with the
- > >new equpment can use it and people will the old stuff can continue to use
- > >that. Gradually (after 10 or 20 years, or whatever interval seems
- > >appropriate) you force the remaining few to switch over.
- >
- > >Not that I'm convinced this would be practical, but it's certainly
- > >possible.
- >
- > From a technical standpoint it would be possible. However there isn't any
- > suitable RF spectrum available for such an undertaking.
-
- Well it depends. Here at the AT-Centre we use paired VHF-UHF frequencies,
- which multicast upon demand. This is done for civil/military coordination.
- It will however be from a human standpoint impossible. If it's busy, then it
- takes a lot from the controller to listen to both frequencies together.
- But then, the militaries don't use these frequencies, because they have their
- own ATC's.
-
- -martin-
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- e-mail: zap@cpzap.xs4all.nl
-
- 'This message was brought to you, with the help of subluminal advertising.'
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 26 Sep 1994 09:15:54 +0000
- From: ihnp4.ucsd.edu!swrinde!howland.reston.ans.net!EU.net!sun4nl!hacktic!cpzap!zap@network.ucsd.edu
- To: info-hams@ucsd.edu
-
- References <CwInpI.G5L@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <8g5Dc2j030n@cpzap.xs4all.nl>, <35uf24$mhr@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>│π
- Subject : Re: Why is aviation COM VHF *amplitude* modulated?
-
- In article <35uf24$mhr@cmcl2.NYU.EDU>
- roy@mchip00.med.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) writes:
-
- > zap@cpzap.xs4all.nl (Martin Heffels) writes:
- > >AM also suffers much from ignition noise, generated by cars, which makes
- > >mobile comms very difficult.
- >
- > Why should a gasoline piston engine in a car produce any more or less
- > ignition noise than a gasoline piston engine in an airplane? In fact, the
- > airplane has twice as much ignition stuff per cylinder, so I would expect it
- > to produce more.
-
- Because an a/c engine is much better shielded than a car's engine.
-
- -martin-
-
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- e-mail: zap@cpzap.xs4all.nl
-
- 'This message was brought to you, with the help of subluminal advertising.'
-
- ------------------------------
-
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